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what to do when an editor asks one to revise. (?) 
16th-Feb-2007 11:04 am
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"In 1976, before I'd published anything, I wrote a long, windy poem called 'Fathers and Sons.' I sent it to the journal Quarterly West. The editor sent the poem back with a note suggesting I rewrite the middle two sections and resubmit it. I knew from watching the editors of Sequoia, the Stanford literary journal, that all editors are overworked and underpaid and can't possibly read everything that crosses their desks with keen attention. So I waited six months and sent the poem back unchanged, with a letter thanking the editor for his suggestions, all of which I said I took. I even said that if he didn't accept the poem, I was still in his debt, because his suggestions had made the poem new to me again and more like what I initially envisioned when I started writing it. Within days, I received a letter from the editor accepting the poem and commending me for my professionalism."

-Alan Shapiro, "Why Write?" from the Cincinatti Review, republished in The Best American Essays 2006. Not available online.

Shapiro writes that he told this story at Bread Loaf, and was later informed by one of his students that he'd taken his advice and did the same thing re: a returned submission from Boulevard, and had the same result.

Interesting essay. Talks a bit about the relationship between ADD and writing poetry--how writing poetry helps easily-distracted minds concentrate.
Comments 
16th-Feb-2007 09:23 pm (UTC) - How annoying
Anonymous
Shapiro acknowledges that poetry editors don't have much time. And yet when one goes to the trouble to give him some advice ... something that very, very rarely happens because said editors are so busy ... he brags about how he ignored it. What an ass.
17th-Feb-2007 02:58 am (UTC) - Poetry Editors
Anonymous
When I was the poetry editor of a national literary magazine, I'd sometimes
really like a poem except for one flaw, one bad line or the other. I'd write
back about this flaw, this line, whatever, and invite the poet to think about
changes. Believe me, I remembered the poem and what I said about it and
if the poem came back unchanged, I'd know it (and did, when this happened
once 8 months later) and reject it again. That's really bad advice from Shapiro.
17th-Feb-2007 01:11 pm (UTC) - Re: Poetry Editors
there was a widely-published poet/fiction writer who taught a summer poetry workshop i went to once who talked about how the more a person reads a particular poem that more he or she will like it, because it becomes more and more familiar...and how he had gotten published by sending the same poem (unchanged) to the same magazine several times. every time the editor read it he would send back nicer and nicer rejections, apparently not recognizing it from having seen it before. finally, the editor published it.

there are weird little stories like this all over the place, examples of poets successfully going against the submission rules...for 1 ex, if i remember right, James Dickey (I think it was him, but I'm not 100% sure) never sent SASE's out w/his poems....

i'm not sure how to feel about these anecdotes when i hear them. perhaps i just don't have enough ego to break rules like these.

-T.



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